The podcast where aging people laugh, learn, and refuse to let the old man in their head through the front door.
Out to Pasture

Episodes

April 30, 2025

24. Joe Klecko: Rivalry, Respect, and Roughing a Guy Up!

Hall of Fame defensive lineman and NY Jets legend, Joe Klecko joins Bo and Joe to discuss the great Dolphins-Jets rivalry, memorable games, and the respect they had for each other. Klecko also opens up about the challenges of maintaining his health as he ages, shares insights on longevity and the importance of staying active, and explains what issues he has with the recent New York Sack Exchange documentary.
April 16, 2025

23. Greg Cote: Impactful Columns, Controversial Opinions, and Getting Old

Longtime Miami Herald columnist Greg Cote reflects on his experiences with legendary figures in Miami sports, including Don Shula and Pat Riley. He discusses the evolution of coaching styles, the impact of his controversial columns, and the shift from traditional media to digital platforms. Greg shares insights on the changing landscape of sports journalism and the importance of adapting to new technologies while maintaining integrity in reporting.
April 2, 2025

22. Understanding Cardiovascular Health with Dr. Eli Friedman

Bo and Joe are joined by Dr. Eli Friedman, M.D., medical director of sports cardiology at Miami Cardiac and Vascular Institute, part of Baptist Health South Florida, to discuss the importance of heart health, particularly for older adults. They cover various topics including community engagement in heart health education, the significance of regular check-ups, the impact of diet and exercise, and the role of technology in health monitoring. The conversation also touches on alcohol consumption, e...
March 19, 2025

21. David Shula: Dad Was Tough, But He Cared

David Shula reflects on his journey from law school to becoming a coach in the NFL, sharing insights about the invaluable lessons learned from his legendary father, Don Shula as well as the pressures of coaching, talent evaluation, and the dynamics of coaching personalities. He discusses the importance of respect, commitment, and the dynamics of coaching, as well as the challenges and rewards of balancing family life with a demanding career in football. Dave also opens up about his personal heal...
Feb. 20, 2025

20. Don Strock: I Was Always Prepared

Don Strock shares his experiences as a backup quarterback for the Miami Dolphins, reflecting on the importance of preparation and the unique challenges of the role. He discusses his long tenure with legendary coach Don Shula, providing insights into game day dynamics and memorable moments, including the iconic double overtime game against the San Diego Chargers, as well as backing up both Bob Griese and Dan Marino. The conversation shifts to health as Dr. Jonathan Fialkow, Chief Cardiologist at ...
Feb. 5, 2025

19. Kristi Krueger: Maxi Dresses Are Very Dangerous

In this engaging conversation, Kristi Krueger shares her journey in broadcasting, the evolution of women in media, and the challenges of social media criticism. She discusses impactful health stories, her personal experience with injury and recovery, and the importance of bone health and nutrition. Dr. Roy Cardoso, orthopedic surgeon at Baptist Health Orthopedic Care, also joins to conversation to discuss Kristi’s injury and surgery, as well as the measures individuals can take to improve their ...
Jan. 23, 2025

18. Marty Lyons: There’s One Play That Still Haunts Me

Former New York Jets great, Marty Lyons, discusses his 12-year career, his role on the Jets’ fabled New York Sack Exchange that also featured Mark Gastineau, Joe Klecko, and Abdul Salaam, the hit that ended the career of Hall of Fame center, Dwight Stephenson, and recovering from knee replacement in his late sixties. Jimmy Cefalo joins Kim Bokamper for this conversation that also concludes with a conversation with Dr. Alexander van der Ven, an orthopedic surgeon with Baptist Health Medical Group...
Jan. 1, 2025

17. Chef Angelo Elia: $70,000 on a Bottle of Wine?

Originally from Salerno, Italy, Chef Angelo Elia is a leading culinary figure celebrated throughout the United States. His flagship restaurant concept, Casa D’Angelo, is a Ft. Lauderdale staple and Angelo has since opened restaurants throughout South Florida and beyond. In this episode, Angelo joins Bo & Joe to discuss his rise in the industry, overcoming a battle with cancer, and spending quality time with his family. Follow Out to Pasture: https://outtopasturepodcast.com/ Apple Podcasts | htt...
Dec. 18, 2024

16: The Best of 2024

Bo & Joe are 15 episodes in and there is no turning back now! As 2024 comes to a close, the guys look back at some of their favorite moments from the first season of Out to Pasture. Larry Csonka (1:52) Dave Barry (6:26) O.J. McDuffie (9:41) Johnny Bench (12:47) Willy T. Ribbs (16:57) Joe Theismann (21:33) Glenn & Lyle Blackwood (27:29) Mark “Super” Duper (33:03) Harvey Greene (37:01)
Nov. 20, 2024

15. Dave Wannstedt on Ricky Williams, Drinking with Jimmy Johnson, and Recruiting Aaron Donald

Dave Wannstedt reflects on his extensive coaching career in football, sharing personal anecdotes about his time with the Dallas Cowboys, Miami Dolphins, Chicago Bears, and Miami Hurricanes. The discussion also touches on personal well-being and staying active in life after coaching. Follow Out to Pasture: https://outtopasturepodcast.com/
Nov. 6, 2024

14. Lyle and Glenn Blackwood on Don Shula, Bill Arnsparger, Pranks and Navigating Life After Football

Glenn and Lyle Blackwood join Bo & Joe to reflect on their days of commanding the Miami Dolphins defensive backfield as members of the fabled Killer B’s Defense. The brothers discuss tough coaching from Don Shula and Bill Arnsparger, the countless pranks they pulled on their teammates, and the importance of mental engagement when navigating life after football.
Oct. 23, 2024

13. Harvey Greene Talks Don Shula, George Steinbrenner, and President Joe Biden

Harvey Greene joins Bo and Joe to discuss his extensive career in sports communications, detailing his experiences with iconic figures like George Steinbrenner, Don Shula, Jimmy Johnson, Nick Saban, and even President Joe Biden. Greene's anecdotes highlight the importance of preparation, adaptability, loyalty, and the impact of technology on sports PR.
Oct. 2, 2024

12. Michael Silver on Mike McDaniel, the New Breed of NFL Coaches, and Sports Journalism

Sports writer and television analyst Michael Silver joins Bo and Joe to discuss his new book, The Why Is Everything. Silver shares his insights from his experiences covering the NFL, Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, and the current state of sports journalism. Get your copy of The Why Is Everything here: https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324093602
Sept. 18, 2024

11. Mark “Super” Duper on Don Shula, Dan Marino, Surviving Cancer, and Beekeeping

Mark “Super” Duper shares his journey from a track star to an NFL legend, discussing the challenges he faced in his early career, his development as a player, and his experiences playing alongside greats like Dan Marino and Mark Clayton. He opens up about his battle with cancer and the support he received from friends and family, as well as his transition to life after football and his new passion for beekeeping.
Sept. 4, 2024

10. Sal Paolantonio on the Power of Sports and the Importance of Family

Sal Paolantonio has been a mainstay of ESPN’s NFL coverage since 1995. Best known for his coverage of the Philadelphia Eagles, Paolantonio is a New York native who served as a Surface Warfare officer in the US Navy right out of college. Sal was a political reporter for The Philadelphia Inquirer before moving on to ESPN. Follow Out to Pasture: https://outtopasturepodcast.com/ Apple Podcasts | https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-to-pasture/id1742192147 Spotify | https://open.spotify.com/sho...
Aug. 21, 2024

9. Doug Betters on Positive Mindset, his Life-Altering Accident, and the Killer B’s

Doug Betters is the classic example of a draft-day steal. Selected in the sixth round by the Miami Dolphins in 1978, Betters would go on to spend his entire 10-year career in orange and aqua and joining with our very own Kim Bokamper as a member of the fabled Killer B’s Defense. Betters was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 1983, as well as a first team All-Pro and Pro Bowl selection that same year. He participated in two Super Bowls with Miami and is a member of the team’s Ring of H...
Aug. 7, 2024

8. Dr. Howard Bush on Atrial Fibrillation, Regular Physicals, Exercise & Diet| Out to Pasture

Dr. Howard Bush, MD is an interventional cardiologist in Weston, Fla. With more than 41 years of experience in the medical field. Dr. Bush has extensive experience in Interventional Cardiac Procedures, Heart Conditions, and Adult Congenital Heart Conditions. In this episode, Dr. Bush joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss all aspects of heart health.
July 17, 2024

7. Willy T. Ribbs on Aging, Muhammad Ali, Indy Car, and Resilience

In this episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Willy T. Ribbs joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss his trailblazing career in auto racing. The first African-American driver to test a Formula One car and to compete in the Indianapolis 500, Ribbs shares the challenges he overcame in racing, encounters with Muhammad Ali, navigating NASCAR in the Deep South and his documentary film, Uppity. Now 65 years old, Willy also opens up on the importance of letting go of resentment and al...
July 3, 2024

6. Joe Theismann on Aging, his Leg Injury, Mental Toughness, and Notre Dame

In this episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Joe Theismann joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss how his gruesome leg injury on Monday Night Football had a profound impact on his career, his current health, and the way sports injuries are presented on television. The former Washington quarterback also delves into the importance of mental toughness and adapting to physical limitations as individuals age. Of course, Theismann doesn’t pass up an opportunity to reflect on the Su...
June 19, 2024

5. Dave Barry on Type Writers, Steve Martin, Miami, and the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile

Author and humorist, Dave Barry, won a Pulitzer Prize for his syndicated column, which ran in more than 500 newspapers and was the inspiration for the TV show, Dave’s World. Barry has also written dozens of bestselling books ranging from humorous fiction to young-adult novels. In this episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Barry joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss various topics including the transition of a news room with advancements in technology, collaborating with come...
June 5, 2024

4. O.J. McDuffie on Mental Health, Seeking Help, and Aging | Out to Pasture

O.J. McDuffie, a consensus All-American at Penn State, was the Miami Dolphins' first-round pick in the 1993 NFL Draft. Quickly becoming Dan Marino’s favorite target, McDuffie lead the NFL in receptions in 1998 and earned back-to-back Team MVP honors in 1997 and 1998. Beyond football, O.J. has been deeply involved in charitable activities, and has maintained a strong presence in sports media, co-hosting the popular Fish Tank podcast, as well as the Dolphins' pregame and postgame shows on iHeart R...
May 22, 2024

3. Johnny Bench on injuries, leadership, and longevity | Out to Pasture

Johnny Bench is regarded by many as the greatest catcher in Major League Baseball history. The 14-time All Star spent his entire 17-year career in Cincinnati, famously leading the Reds teams of the mid-1970’s known as the Big Red Machine. During Bench’s tenure, the Reds won six division titles, four National League pennants and two World Series Championships, In this episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Bench joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss the injuries he endured ove...
May 8, 2024

2. Stan Van Gundy on 60’s Sitcoms, Travel, Aging, and Luck

Stan Van Gundy is a former NBA head coach of teams including the Miami HEAT, Orlando Magic, Detroit Pistons and New Orleans Pelicans. Now 64 years old, Van Gundy is a television commentator for the NBA on TNT as well as College Basketball on CBS. In this episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Van Gundy joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose to discuss his favorite television shows from the 60s and 70s, the rigors of travel in his current position calling NBA games across the country, the...
May 1, 2024

1. Larry Csonka on aging, family, and Don Shula's leadership

Former Miami Dolphins fullback Larry Csonka is a two-time Super Bowl champion, the MVP of Super Bowl VIII, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and regarded as one of the most physical players in NFL history. Zonk is also an active 77-year-old who lives life to the fullest! In this first episode of the Out to Pasture podcast with Bo & Joe, Larry joins Kim Bokamper and Joe Rose for an insightful conversation covering everything from remaining active while aging, to reaching a time in his l...